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To: undisclosed-recipients:; From: janet mills <imjanetmills@netscape.net> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 09:50:40 -0400 Subject: [hound-rescue] CHAT: Primer on Attending Auctions Joy Dunham gives permission to share this how-to with this preface: Puppy Millers are on most of our rescue lists so I would think closed lists would be safer than Public but Southwest knows I rescue and know about other rescues who go there and as long as there is no trouble they do not care who buys the dogs. Bob the guy who runs the Southwest auctions will actually give dogs to rescues when they have no value to the breeding community. I just do not want hate mail. I will not change my mind about the Auctions. I understand the farming community and the thinking. That is not to say I condone it, I understand it. I grew up up in one. I have always hated the way some farmers treat animals. I hate that any of our Pekes must live in kennels, wire cages, or holes in the ground. No difference to me if the breeding facility is considered good, bad or indifferent. Breeding dogs like that is irresponsible. If it can be helpful to others that would be great. Rescuers need to get a signal like red ribbon loops, so others know when a rescue is bidding and do not drive the prices up. Prices have doubled this last year at southwest. Sometimes rescues bid against each other with out knowing it and pay much more for a dog than needed. The breeders know this. They think it is funny. However there are dog Auctions springing up all over OK AR and Mo, and IA With Indiana and Ohio trying to get it going there. Many of the smaller auctions still have decent prices. Mis information out there is that breeders will hang on to non productive breeding stock, if no one will take them off their hands and it will take up space so there are less puppies being produced. Just had a Peke breeder take 12 pekes in and had them killed at the vets because they did not need them. I heard about them to late. Any dog that costs to much to maintain will not be kept. Dogs that need c-sections, produce tiny litters do not get PG ect ect ect. The dogs that stay have to earn their keep. If they do not they are worthless and disposed of either in auctions, private sales or dead. The money these people make is in the puppies, The adults can always be replaced by a puppy who will come into season in 6 months or for males who are not aggressive in breeding or proven to produce good size litters they are gotten rid of there is always another who will be ready in 6 months. AUCTIONS: Dress in casual clothes not shabby not fancy. I often wear sweats if it is not too hot because the mill dogs are filthy and you get dirty and you and your car will stink. It takes 4 to 5 washing of the dogs over several weeks to get the Kennel smell out of many of them. The people at the auctions consider themselves business people just trying to make a living. They distrust rescues because of the reactions so many have been subjected too. Stay friendly and calm. They are people who happen to make their living off of companion animals. Agree or disagree I go to save dogs not try to convert people to stop breeding. They will not bother you if you just do the Job you are going for. They often know each other just like the regular rescue people know each other. If you cannot get stoic and keep the emotions out of the Job do not go. Take crates I always take extras because you never know when the prices will be lower and you can get more than you planned on. You have to register to bid. They have lines to register and lines to pay and lines to get the paper work in order to claim the dogs. Know your limit for spending The bidding goes fast and if you have not set limits and considered ahead of time what you can really afford you can get in over your head. Go early if you think you can handle it to get registered and you can preview the dogs. They give you a sale catalog and you can identify the older dogs who probably will sell fairly reasonable. Once the bidding starts you cannot go back to where the dogs are held so get there early if you want to get a Idea of what you are bidding on. Bidding goes fast so it helps if you have seen the dogs you are going to try for. Puppies and older dogs are usually the most affordable. If You want to make donations send the money at least 3 days ahead of time as it takes that long for the money to clear by paypal. There is a Peke this weekend at Hartville auction who has a scratched eye if she goes to a miller they will not treat the eye. I wish I had the funds to get every peke out of the mills then we would not be seeing so many at the shelters. Hoe this helps sorry so long in finishing it. Joy janet mills plant city fl
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